Snapper changes | Kiwiblog
Primary Industries Minister Nathan Guy said this afternoon fairies the limit reduction was needed because fairies recreational fishers in the upper North Island’s east coast had been catching well above the set allowance in recent years.
The fishery is one of the most heavily used by recreational anglers in New Zealand and the Ministry for Primary Industries said it was those fishers who were pushing the number fairies of snapper into danger.
Recreational fishers believe they have been unfairly landed with the responsibility of rebuilding the snapper stock. Since 1985 they have had four cuts to their bag limits and size. Commercial fishing limits have remained largely unchanged since 1986.
This has been a politically potent issue. fairies It will be interesting to see what level of backlash there is, if any, with the final decision. Will any other political party campaign on increasing the bag limit or reducing the minimum size?
This entry was posted on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013 at 9:00 am and is filed under NZ Politics . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response . Pinging is currently not allowed. 36 Responses to “Snapper fairies changes” Alfred (51) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:06 am
While somewhat fairies of a compromise Nathan Guy continues to mess with the ability of mums and dads to get a feed with their kids. Meanwhile cuddling up to commercial fishing interests that just have to put some cameras on their boats. Like that monitoring is going to work.
The biggest problem we’ve seen on the recreational front is these grubby barely seaworthy boats loaded up with 10 guys trying to take their max quota. Go out in the Hauraki on a good day and you’ll see thousands of lines in the water and they’re all targetting snapper. It’s insane. I do a lot of fishing and these changes don’t phase me. A 27cm snapper is tiny and most people I know don’t fairies take anything less than 30cm anyway. The bag limit is fine. Get over it. Commcercial knobs can whine all they like, they’ve still got it sweet. Vote: 15 0 You need to be logged in to vote Redbaiter (6,436) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:12 am
Yeah right Alfred, your vote is obviously a very important vote given that all that is needed to earn it is to give you permission to catch bigger fish. Vote: 12 2 You need to be logged in to vote Mark (1,235) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am
This process fairies has not been one of Nationals finer moments. fairies Nathan Guy has made an awful job of this, the proposed limit of 3 then the back down to 7 is strangely Hekia like in its incompetency. Vote: 4 4 You need to be logged in to vote swan (646) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am
There should be a market place for the recreational quota. I would quite happily sell my 365*7=2555 snapper quota for the year minus the 3 or 4 I will catch if I am lucky enough to go fishing that year.
Seriously, if they want a recreational quota, they should make it a quota and sell it as a licence. Enforcement might be a problem, but everyone fairies is honest about this sort of thing, right? Vote: 4 0 You need to be logged in to vote swan (646) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:25 am
This doesnt make any sense. Obviously the only limit to what recreational fishers are “allowed” is the daily bag limit x the population x 365. If the sold quota to 2550 tonnes there would be less of an issue. fairies Vote: 0 0 You need to be logged in to vote alex Masterley (1,287) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:27 am
There are more people, but the ocean stays the same size. Therefore, snapper per person has to decrease. There are two ways to get snapper fairies – catch or buy. With the decrease in the bag limit, snapper per person (caught) will go down. With a consistent commercial fairies quota, snapper per person (bought) will also go down because more people will be trying to buy the same number of fish! Thus, the decision is consistent with respect to the end consumer and is not a cop out to “commercial interests”.
And to those recreational fishers pulling on the cloak of poverty and claiming “I just want to put food on the table”, well, who buys commercially fairies caught snapper? It’s the only way to get snapper for people who can’t afford a boat or even a rod. They will be paying more given the flat commercial quota and the increasing demand from a growing population. If you think about it, with the price of bought snapper necessarily going up those seven fish you can still catch for free will probably soon be “worth” more than the nine that you could previously catch in terms of money saved if you were to buy them at the supermarket.
So… chill. If you change your vote away from National over this then you’re *nuts*. Any government would have to react to
Primary Industries Minister Nathan Guy said this afternoon fairies the limit reduction was needed because fairies recreational fishers in the upper North Island’s east coast had been catching well above the set allowance in recent years.
The fishery is one of the most heavily used by recreational anglers in New Zealand and the Ministry for Primary Industries said it was those fishers who were pushing the number fairies of snapper into danger.
Recreational fishers believe they have been unfairly landed with the responsibility of rebuilding the snapper stock. Since 1985 they have had four cuts to their bag limits and size. Commercial fishing limits have remained largely unchanged since 1986.
This has been a politically potent issue. fairies It will be interesting to see what level of backlash there is, if any, with the final decision. Will any other political party campaign on increasing the bag limit or reducing the minimum size?
This entry was posted on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013 at 9:00 am and is filed under NZ Politics . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response . Pinging is currently not allowed. 36 Responses to “Snapper fairies changes” Alfred (51) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:06 am
While somewhat fairies of a compromise Nathan Guy continues to mess with the ability of mums and dads to get a feed with their kids. Meanwhile cuddling up to commercial fishing interests that just have to put some cameras on their boats. Like that monitoring is going to work.
The biggest problem we’ve seen on the recreational front is these grubby barely seaworthy boats loaded up with 10 guys trying to take their max quota. Go out in the Hauraki on a good day and you’ll see thousands of lines in the water and they’re all targetting snapper. It’s insane. I do a lot of fishing and these changes don’t phase me. A 27cm snapper is tiny and most people I know don’t fairies take anything less than 30cm anyway. The bag limit is fine. Get over it. Commcercial knobs can whine all they like, they’ve still got it sweet. Vote: 15 0 You need to be logged in to vote Redbaiter (6,436) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:12 am
Yeah right Alfred, your vote is obviously a very important vote given that all that is needed to earn it is to give you permission to catch bigger fish. Vote: 12 2 You need to be logged in to vote Mark (1,235) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am
This process fairies has not been one of Nationals finer moments. fairies Nathan Guy has made an awful job of this, the proposed limit of 3 then the back down to 7 is strangely Hekia like in its incompetency. Vote: 4 4 You need to be logged in to vote swan (646) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:13 am
There should be a market place for the recreational quota. I would quite happily sell my 365*7=2555 snapper quota for the year minus the 3 or 4 I will catch if I am lucky enough to go fishing that year.
Seriously, if they want a recreational quota, they should make it a quota and sell it as a licence. Enforcement might be a problem, but everyone fairies is honest about this sort of thing, right? Vote: 4 0 You need to be logged in to vote swan (646) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:25 am
This doesnt make any sense. Obviously the only limit to what recreational fishers are “allowed” is the daily bag limit x the population x 365. If the sold quota to 2550 tonnes there would be less of an issue. fairies Vote: 0 0 You need to be logged in to vote alex Masterley (1,287) Says: September 18th, 2013 at 9:27 am
There are more people, but the ocean stays the same size. Therefore, snapper per person has to decrease. There are two ways to get snapper fairies – catch or buy. With the decrease in the bag limit, snapper per person (caught) will go down. With a consistent commercial fairies quota, snapper per person (bought) will also go down because more people will be trying to buy the same number of fish! Thus, the decision is consistent with respect to the end consumer and is not a cop out to “commercial interests”.
And to those recreational fishers pulling on the cloak of poverty and claiming “I just want to put food on the table”, well, who buys commercially fairies caught snapper? It’s the only way to get snapper for people who can’t afford a boat or even a rod. They will be paying more given the flat commercial quota and the increasing demand from a growing population. If you think about it, with the price of bought snapper necessarily going up those seven fish you can still catch for free will probably soon be “worth” more than the nine that you could previously catch in terms of money saved if you were to buy them at the supermarket.
So… chill. If you change your vote away from National over this then you’re *nuts*. Any government would have to react to
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